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GrowlingDogBeer · Post by **GrowlingDogBeer** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:27 pm

I don't think theres anything wrong with making it, or even drinking it.

The problem comes when you start consuming the mass produced rubbish.

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:39 pm

Why are lager drinkers/makers so hated on this forum?

I thought about posting a question about making a lager earlier this week but before I did I did a search and found people were posting hate messages like "piss in a bucket and drink that same as lager" when people where asking for help so I didn't bother. If people post a question about bitter or stout I don't see any go shit in a bucket posts!

I drink lager, stout and bitter and probably in that order

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:48 pm

Runwell-Steve wrote:I don't think theres anything wrong with making it, or even drinking it.

The problem comes when you start consuming the mass produced rubbish.

+1, hit the nail on the head Steve.

Trunky · Post by **Trunky** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:05 pm

Shadowknight · Post by **Shadowknight** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:10 pm

The most important point is... you *made* it. You didn't just go to Tesco and buy generic bland brand no# 1

Trunky · Post by **Trunky** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:13 pm

Shifty Mick · Post by **Shifty Mick** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:17 pm

Bit off topic maybe, but I once had a hand pulled lager (Shehallion or summat) in Scotland - absolutely lovely, it was, and nothing like any of the usual lagers you get.

Manx Guy · Post by **Manx Guy** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:40 pm

Yeah cask conditioned lagers are becoming popular - a few micros do them now( and some regionals)...

The Germans do one which they call 'kellerbeir'
I've brewed several lagers from both extract and AG - I make styles you cant easily get hold of like Vienna, dunkel and Oktoberfest...

If I wanted a Pils/pilsner I'd probably buy it though as I doubt my skill set is up to cloning a good Czech pils... (Shame)

I've seen the threads referred to on heere and alot of those coments are aimed at people wanting to " make a good lager like fosters or carling" which on a forum dedicated to beer is like saying I want to eat cheese butties on a 'foody forum' (not that there is any thing wrong with a decent chesse butty...

Each to their own..
Dont fear posting if you have a question about how to brew a lager (unless you are trying to clone fosters -WHY????) there are plenty of Lager brewers on here...

I love my English ale but a nice lager has its place too!

Cheers!

Guy

Post by **themadhippy** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:01 pm

(Shehallion or summat) in Scotland - absolutely lovely,

would that be Schiehallion harviestoun? bloody lovley pint,and my next brew to do,

Schiehallion og 1048 ABV 4.8% 12.5 units of colour 5 gallon batch.
LAGER MALT 4570 gms
WHEAT MALT 240 gms
HOPS BOIL TIME 90 minutes 37.5 EBU

CHALLENGER27 gms
HERSBRUCKER 29 gms

Add 20 gms HERSBRUCKER last 15 minutes.

This beer is brewed with a lager yeast.

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Shifty Mick · Post by **Shifty Mick** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:05 pm

[quote="themadhippy"]would that be Schiehallion harviestoun? bloody lovley pint,and my next brew to do,
[quote]

That's probably the one. All I know is I had it in 1997 in a pub in Callander, and it was supposedly brewed somewhere not far away from there.

Dennis King · Post by **Dennis King** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:07 pm

I`ve made a few lagers in the past, not been fantastic but still better than standard run of the mill stuff.

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:01 pm

Cool, feeling there is more fans of pale sparkling than just me. I do feel their is a place for Fosters/Carling in the market but not really what I would try to clone and make at home plus with the offers at Tesco's it could be cheaper to buy lol (maybe not). I go to Belgium twice a year for work and sometimes France and their draft lager is fantastic, sometimes I wonder if it would sell well in the UK but I guess not or somebody would be doing it. The main brands I mentioned do a lot of tv adverts so I guess that's what young lads buy when they 1st go in pub at the age of 16/17 lol and then stick with, shame I think standard strong beer like Grimbergen Blonde or Leffe would be nice to see on draft in a uk pub but I haven't ever seen it

Manx Guy · Post by **Manx Guy** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:58 am

There is nothing wrong with most lagers...

Even the mass market very heavily marketed brands like Fosters and Carling have a place... But unfortunately their dominance in the market helds back the proliferatoin of more flavoursome beers...
I certainly wouldnt try to replicate a pale lager like fosters etc as I couldnt get that pale and flavourless... The brewers of these brands go to great lengths to get a 'clean' not too bitter drink ...

I may try a pilsner one day or a Grolsch clone once I think my yeast handling and fermentation temp control will allow it.

Until then I'll make all sorts of beers, Pale ales, Wheatbeers, VMO lagers, porters etc.

Guy

Swiller · Post by **Swiller** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:25 am

As you can see by my signature I am planning
a Pils

Just as a research and learn excersise you understand.
But seriously there'rs nowt wrong with brewing your own.

J

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