Brewday 20 April 07 (planned) - no name...

[inthedark]

I've got a day to have another go at AG on Friday. I started out with Dave Line's 6X recipe, but then started to fiddle with it, replacing the invert sugar to an equivalent amount of malt, and came to the following:

Size: 23 L
Efficiency: 70.0%
Attenuation: 75.0%

Original Gravity: 1.041 (1.040 - 1.048)
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Terminal Gravity: 1.010 (1.008 - 1.012)
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Color: 17.8 (5.0 - 16.0)
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Alcohol: 4.07% (3.8% - 4.6%)
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Bitterness: 25.11 (25.0 - 40.0)
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Ingredients:
3.7 kg Maris Otter
0.37 kg Crystal Malt
0.47 kg Flaked Maize
30 g Goldings (4.8%) - added during boil, boiled 90.0 min
15 g Brambling Cross (5.8%) - added during boil, boiled 90.0 min
5.0 mL Irish Moss - added during boil, boiled 15 min
1.0 ea Fermentis S-04 Safale S-04

Suppose it's no longer DL's 6X but something different, but I can't think of a name right now. I'm working with the efficiency I got last week for now. Oh, and I added a touch more crystal for colour, and brought the bitterness up a bit.

Does this look OK?

[mysterio]

Why did you cut out the invert sugar out of interest ITD?

[inthedark]

Why did you cut out the invert sugar out of interest ITD?

Heh, haven't got any! I suppose I could go and buy some golden syrup. Wont this thin it out, though?

[mysterio]

I just mention because from reading the posts on this forum all (or most of) DLs recipes are tried and tested, even using bizarre things like saccharin tablets! Invert sugar will thin it out slightly but usually it's done to emulate the real thing.

Golden syrup is invert sugar, I believe.

[eskimobob]

I brewed DL's 6X exactly as is, the only thing i'd change would be the hop quantities. I'd drop them by 10-20%. Otherwise the recipe is A1 imo

I think you're right about the hop quantities DaaB - My 6X (using DLs recipe slightly modified - glucose IIRC instead of Golden Syrup) was a bit over hopped for my taste.

[inthedark]

Probably just as well to leave out invert sugar as the recipe in my book (2002 ed) at least doesn't use it

Actually, before someone jumps all over me, I believe in the preface it says that some of the recipes have been modified to reflect what the book reviser considered to be available in your HB shop.

The current edition calls for 300g of brewers sugar, I presume this replaces invert sugar. IMO it does the trick

I have the 1984 cheapskate from eBay version! Maybe I'll use that & just use the original recipe. The alcohol content still looks a bit low, however - Wadworths have it as 4.3%

[eskimobob]

The current edition calls for 300g of brewers sugar, I presume this replaces invert sugar. IMO it does the trick

Lovely - looking back on the recipe, I used 300g of Glucose

[inthedark]

Lovely - looking back on the recipe, I used 300g of Glucose

for 25 or 23L?

[inthedark]

OK, still not happy with the gravity though - if I keep the fermentables in proportion, should I be able to increase the quantities to get closer to the original without messing up the flavour?

[inthedark]

Bad idea then?

[mysterio]

should I be able to increase the quantities to get closer to the original without messing up the flavour?

Exactly. Proportion is the important thing, as long as the target gravity matches your efficiency.

[inthedark]

Thanks, mysterio. I'll rework the recipe tomorrow to hit the 1043 whilst maintaining the proportions.