US-05 Advice

[robbarwell]

Right...got it kegged tonight with a bit of gelatin....6 hours later...nothing, its as cloudy as anything...what does this need to drop it clear

[seymour]

Right...got it kegged tonight with a bit of gelatin....6 hours later...nothing, its as cloudy as anything...what does this need to drop it clear

Well, most US craft brewers who swear by this bugger use advanced whirlpool and/or filtration systems. In your case? Time.

Next time take my advice and use a classic English strain that tastes better and drops like a rock. I'm just giving you a hard time, it'll be fine. Word to the wise, the whole American hefeweizen craft revival? Nothing but a pale ale recipe with some wheat and US-05/Chico without filtration. Left to its own devices, it's that cloudy for quite awhile. Almost none of these American "hefeweizens" use a true German weiss/weizen yeast strain. Perhaps the closest would be Widmer Hefeweizen which at least uses a German alt yeast, which is headed in the right direction...

[jonnyt]

I've found gelatin very effective with US-05 but it takes days not hours to work it's magic.

[robbarwell]

Good to know...it tastes really good if you can get past the grainy yeasty taste...I will leave it until after the weekend and see what its like then, if still a bit cloudy then I will shove some additional finnings to it

[jonnyt]

I should point out that I did have one with US-05 that Gelatine didn't shift buy I think that was 5th generation. They all clear eventually when bottled after a few months.

[floydmeddler]

I had real success by racking to secondary with no gelatine and allowing the beer to settle by itself for around 3-5 days. Then I stirred in the gelatine - idea being that it would get to work on the haze that was reluctant to drop. Beer was gleaming - absolutely crystal clear.I didn't do it with my current APA. Gelatined a week ago and beer has a slight haze. However, this beer suffered a stuck mash so I had to stir the f*ck into the grain bed to get it flowing which obviously added loads of grain matter to the boiler. I then had a stuck run off into the fermenter so had to tip the entire contents of the boiler into the fermenter through a sieve. Massive head of trub throughout the ferment.

I'm surprised it's now this clear to tell you the truth... good old gelatine!

[jampot]

Could someone post a link to the gelatine they use a quick "how to" guide.....

[robbarwell]

I had real success by racking to secondary with no gelatine and allowing the beer to settle by itself for around 3-5 days. Then I stirred in the gelatine - idea being that it would get to work on the haze that was reluctant to drop. Beer was gleaming - absolutely crystal clear.I didn't do it with my current APA. Gelatined a week ago and beer has a slight haze. However, this beer suffered a stuck mash so I had to stir the f*ck into the grain bed to get it flowing which obviously added loads of grain matter to the boiler. I then had a stuck run off into the fermenter so had to tip the entire contents of the boiler into the fermenter through a sieve. Massive head of trub throughout the ferment.

I'm surprised it's now this clear to tell you the truth... good old gelatine!

Just checked again....muddy puddle...

I am going to have to drop some issinglass into it

[floydmeddler]

I had real success by racking to secondary with no gelatine and allowing the beer to settle by itself for around 3-5 days. Then I stirred in the gelatine - idea being that it would get to work on the haze that was reluctant to drop. Beer was gleaming - absolutely crystal clear.I didn't do it with my current APA. Gelatined a week ago and beer has a slight haze. However, this beer suffered a stuck mash so I had to stir the f*ck into the grain bed to get it flowing which obviously added loads of grain matter to the boiler. I then had a stuck run off into the fermenter so had to tip the entire contents of the boiler into the fermenter through a sieve. Massive head of trub throughout the ferment.

I'm surprised it's now this clear to tell you the truth... good old gelatine!

Just checked again....muddy puddle...

I am going to have to drop some issinglass into it

Can take up to a week. Mine is actually crystal clear now.

[floydmeddler]

Could someone post a link to the gelatine they use a quick "how to" guide.....

1. Take either 150ml of the beer from fermenter or 150ml cold water and put in a small pan.
2. Add 12g of gelatine. Leave for 10 mins to bloom. (12g is around 4 sheets)
3. Gently heat to 75c, stirring as you go, then switch off heat. Cover with clean tea towel. Don't use pan lid as germ ridden condensation may drip into the solution.
4. Leave for 15 mins to pasteurize
5. Either: Pour into secondary and rack beer on top
OR
slowly stir into secondary (Be careful not to aerate)

I find that if I have a really cloudy beer in primary, I'll rack to secondary without gelatine then stir it in 3-4 days later.

[robbarwell]

used brewery finnings.....

still muddy puddle

[seymour]

used brewery finnings.....

still muddy puddle

Just to play devil's advocate...so what? It doesn't taste or smell bad, right? Simply tell people it's a hefeweizen if you must.

Beer clarity is overrated.

[robbarwell]

thanks for that seymour....it tastes very yeasty....I just poured out a pint to do a finnings test...3 hours after it was as clear as a bell tasted ok...

the cloudy sample was as dry as a nuns whatsit and tasted a bit too yeasty

[robbarwell]

hurrah....

now clear, but tastes rubbish...dont know where I have gone wrong

[orlando]

Could someone post a link to the gelatine they use a quick "how to" guide.....

1. Take either 150ml of the beer from fermenter or 150ml cold water and put in a small pan.
2. Add 12g of gelatine. Leave for 10 mins to bloom. (12g is around 4 sheets)
3. Gently heat to 75c, stirring as you go, then switch off heat. Cover with clean tea towel. Don't use pan lid as germ ridden condensation may drip into the solution.
4. Leave for 15 mins to pasteurize
5. Either: Pour into secondary and rack beer on top
OR
slowly stir into secondary (Be careful not to aerate)

I find that if I have a really cloudy beer in primary, I'll rack to secondary without gelatine then stir it in 3-4 days later.

Or alternatively you could use this which is incredibly effective and simplicity itself to use.