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Bitter End

Post by soupdragon » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:30 pm

Hi All

Giving this a go tomorrow....

4000g Pale Malt
250g Torrified Wheat
240g Caramalt

30g Challenger @ 90 mins before end of boil
33g Bobek @ 15 mins before end of boil
33g Bobek @ 5 mins before end of boil
34g Bobek ( blitzed to a puree ) dry hopped for 7 days after 7 days of fermentation
28g Chinook ( blitzed to a puree) dry hopped for 7 days after 7 days of fermentation

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Any thoughts?

Cheers Tom
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Re: Bitter End

Post by seymour » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:32 pm

Looks like a delicious English bitter to me. I've not personally brewed with Bobek (yet) but I hear good things about this Northern-Brewer-ish-Styrian-Golding-ish hop. I can't wait to hear how you like the combo with Challenger.

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Re: Bitter End

Post by jimp2003 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:44 pm

Looks tasty Tom.

Personally I like my bitters with a bit more toffee character from the addition of some crystal 60 but I think your recipe will work really well as it is.
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Re: Bitter End

Post by Monkeybrew » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:08 pm

Looks good to me too, and it's a similar but hoppier version of my first 3v AG brew here - viewtopic.php?f=24&t=58329

I am really surprised how much hop flavour that I got from (for me) a relatively small 25g 10min addition :D

Should be a nice brew for our summer that is gradually emerging!!

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AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

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Re: Bitter End

Post by soupdragon » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:28 pm

jimp2003 wrote:Personally I like my bitters with a bit more toffee character from the addition of some crystal 60 but I think your recipe will work really well as it is.
I've not used crystal for ages. I used a little too much on one brew and it put me off. I will have to get some more and give it another go :-)
seymour wrote:I can't wait to hear how you like the combo with Challenger
I'm only using the Challenger as a user upper. I'll probably move to Magnum for bittering.

Cheers Tom
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Re: Bitter End

Post by soupdragon » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:41 pm

Monkeybrew wrote:Looks good to me too, and it's a similar but hoppier version of my first 3v AG brew here - viewtopic.php?f=24&t=58329

I am really surprised how much hop flavour that I got from (for me) a relatively small 25g 10min addition :D

Should be a nice brew for our summer that is gradually emerging!!

MB
I'm hoping to get something with a nice hop flavour in it. I was rather underwhelmed with my last attempt, Bitter start.
I had gone off the traditional style bitters but had some of Critch's best bitter in a local ish pub and rather enjoyed it. I'm sure that I've read somewhere that he uses some form of styrian goldings as late additions so if I can get something of the flavour of his beer I'll be impressed :-)

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Post by critch » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:35 pm

soupdragon wrote: I'm hoping to get something with a nice hop flavour in it. I was rather underwhelmed with my last attempt, Bitter start.
I had gone off the traditional style bitters but had some of Critch's best bitter in a local ish pub and rather enjoyed it. I'm sure that I've read somewhere that he uses some form of styrian goldings as late additions so if I can get something of the flavour of his beer I'll be impressed :-)

Cheers Tom
no styrians in the best bitter tom, its amerillo cascade and a little citra

the styrians are in the styrian :D
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Re: Bitter End

Post by gnutz2 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:43 pm

critch wrote:no styrians in the best bitter tom, its amerillo cascade and a little citra

the styrians are in the styrian :D
Got a recipe for the Bitter? :wall
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Re: Bitter End

Post by soupdragon » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:28 pm

critch wrote:
soupdragon wrote: I'm hoping to get something with a nice hop flavour in it. I was rather underwhelmed with my last attempt, Bitter start.
I had gone off the traditional style bitters but had some of Critch's best bitter in a local ish pub and rather enjoyed it. I'm sure that I've read somewhere that he uses some form of styrian goldings as late additions so if I can get something of the flavour of his beer I'll be impressed :-)

Cheers Tom
no styrians in the best bitter tom, its amerillo cascade and a little citra

the styrians are in the styrian :D
Don't know where I thought I read that then, unless it was the Styrian that I had? That evening in the Cheshire Cheese was a little hazy :lol:

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Re: Bitter End

Post by soupdragon » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:33 pm

gnutz2 wrote:
critch wrote:no styrians in the best bitter tom, its amerillo cascade and a little citra

the styrians are in the styrian :D
Got a recipe for the Bitter? :wall
He he he and Shipwreck IPA while you're at it :lol:

Cheers Tom
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Re: Bitter End

Post by critch » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:37 am

gnutz2 wrote: Got a recipe for the Bitter? :wall
yes thanks :D
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Re: Bitter End

Post by critch » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:39 am

soupdragon wrote: Don't know where I thought I read that then, unless it was the Styrian that I had? That evening in the Cheshire Cheese was a little hazy :lol:

Cheers Tom
ken who owns the cheese is one of the buisness partners, he buys a fair bit of the best

keeps his beer tip top too
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Re: Bitter End

Post by soupdragon » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:04 am

critch wrote:keeps his beer tip top too
I know =P~

We don't get there as often as I'd like but when we do the beer has always been on fine form :D

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Re: Bitter End

Post by soupdragon » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:57 pm

Just added the dry hops.

As I was getting the Bobek out of the freezer, the remains of a pack of Chinook jumped out at me so I thought it best to add them too.
I'm surprised how well the little hand blender worked. I didn't spend too long blitzing them but within a min I had them chopped very finely. Didn't add any beer or pre boiled water so they just went in the muslin bag dry with something to weigh them down.
This time next week I'll find out what the results are when I keg it :-)

Cheers Tom
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Re: Bitter End

Post by Monkeybrew » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:31 pm

I'm interested in the advantages of blitzing the hops before dry hopping?

MB
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%
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