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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by Andy » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:33 pm

Nice work! Looking forward to the first brew results :)
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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by Highlander » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:50 pm

I've been following this and it looks great, but i have to say i'm a little lost. Can you give me a break down of how its planned to work.

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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by barneey » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:54 pm

I`ll PM you mate.
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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by scotia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:56 pm

barneey wrote:The "R" referred to is I would expect laser burn (as I believe the disk has been cut with a laser) I have some pickling paste so it wont take much to remove it (everything is stainless).

As for the tube and discs they were made by a well know (yet new member to JBK) I`ll let him come forward should he wish to.

I will work on a spec sheet of parts used, cost wise its looking at about £300.00 all in.

As for construction if you can cut a hole in stainless and use a few simple tools there isn't much to it.

Next step (not for me) is to either follow Matho pcb deign for his version or use a simple Sestos PID and timer BS3 would work very well to introduce a little automation.

Still need to see who this works + still need to brew with an "original" version to see how they compare.

The first test will be to plumb everything in, test for leaks, add 5kg of grain and see what happens.

Hi Barneey, sorry I forgot to clean off the slag from the plasma cut :oops: (I did remember at 4.30am this morning when I woke and was going to email you to say so but forgot when I finally got out of bed) if you give it a light file it should come away easily.
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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by Fil » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:39 pm

pm/email matho i know he had a few boards made up. if he has any left im sure he would be happy to know his designs getting more use.
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by barneey » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:44 pm

Fil wrote:pm/email matho i know he had a few boards made up. if he has any left im sure he would be happy to know his designs getting more use.

I already have two pcb`s (in the spares box :roll: ) + a list of parts for RS... just haven't - didn't get around to making it (yet). As I have an original "81?3913?211" + a lack of funds at the moment it might very well stay in the spares box.

I used to wire up PCB quite a bit over 20 years ago but find them fiddly now to do.
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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by barneey » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:47 pm

scotia wrote:
barneey wrote:The "R" referred to is I would expect laser burn (as I believe the disk has been cut with a laser) I have some pickling paste so it wont take much to remove it (everything is stainless).

As for the tube and discs they were made by a well know (yet new member to JBK) I`ll let him come forward should he wish to.

I will work on a spec sheet of parts used, cost wise its looking at about £300.00 all in.

As for construction if you can cut a hole in stainless and use a few simple tools there isn't much to it.

Next step (not for me) is to either follow Matho pcb deign for his version or use a simple Sestos PID and timer BS3 would work very well to introduce a little automation.

Still need to see who this works + still need to brew with an "original" version to see how they compare.

The first test will be to plumb everything in, test for leaks, add 5kg of grain and see what happens.



Hi Barneey, sorry I forgot to clean off the slag from the plasma cut :oops: (I did remember at 4.30am this morning when I woke and was going to email you to say so but forgot when I finally got out of bed) if you give it a light file it should come away easily.
Don't worry mate I`ve sorted it :)
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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by Fil » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:03 pm

barneey wrote:
I used to wire up PCB quite a bit over 20 years ago but find them fiddly now to do.
since i never picked up any soldering skills and have to wear glasses to read anything i take the breadoard and hot glue gun approach to electronic solutions :)
easy to test component at a time and the boards have sticky backs for a reason :)

shouldt take too long to wire it all up on a breadboard, and the arduino side is all done, and the base sure has enough space in it :) go Matho!! even if its just for the mash profiling ..
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by darkonnis » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:06 pm

You going to do a brewday thread Clive? If not, can you :) ? I'm really interested in how this turned out. I know that this has been done before, however it'd be nice to see another build completed after all the umming and arring thats happened with ti over the last year and a bit.

Out of interest Fil, what do those arduino boards matho had need doing to them? I'm about to wire up a PID but I can't help but wonder if I should make the PID into a herms and go arduino instead.... but it looks a bit beyond my current skills/time constraints...

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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by Fil » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:51 pm

darkonnis wrote:You going to do a brewday thread Clive? If not, can you :) ? I'm really interested in how this turned out. I know that this has been done before, however it'd be nice to see another build completed after all the umming and arring thats happened with ti over the last year and a bit.

Out of interest Fil, what do those arduino boards matho had need doing to them? I'm about to wire up a PID but I can't help but wonder if I should make the PID into a herms and go arduino instead.... but it looks a bit beyond my current skills/time constraints...

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+1 on the brewday request.. check out jabba's brewery programming thread viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49714&p=522772&hili ... ng#p522772

as there are at least 3 complete systems documented in there including Matho's

u can run a pid via a pc on the arduino using the example processing front end hooked into the example ftom the pid library, with just a one wire temp sensor and the SSR to control elements if you wanted.
( i bunged the code for that into jabas thread as i was learning myself) so a maximum of 5 wires to connect to the arduino ;) most will add a lcd and a few buttons for i/o independent of a tethered puter tho
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
Conditioning: nowt
Maturing: Challenger smash, and a kit lager
Drinking: dry one minikeg left in the store
Coming Soon Lots planned for the near future nowt for the immediate :(

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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by barneey » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:47 pm

The Matho PCB were professionally made / etched items, they just need the components wired to them.

I`ve PM`d Matho this thread to ask for input.

I fully intend to test "my" build out even if I don't fully complete a brewday as I want to see if the thing works / how it works.

I might then be loaning the build out to others for additional ideas / improvements that could be made OR be looking to sell the project on to free up some cash - depends on how much I "need" a grain mill, as I want to build another "timber project" this time a grain hopper :) .

The most important thing tho, if the idea is out "again" and the inner tube can be made - think of all the bergland pots there are to choose from OR the MrLard 160`s :)
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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by darkonnis » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:00 am

I dread to think how heavy the grain would be for a 160L pot :O Would need that cask lifter you got rid of I would think!

I'm building the smaller variant (the one I PM'd you oh so long ago) as we speak, this thread has given me a kick up the bum to get on with it... when I get time...

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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by sladeywadey » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:35 am

This is what I love about homebrewing. The creativity, as demonstrated here by you Barneey is great. Well done.

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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by barneey » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:40 am

Leak Test being carried out + the more important will it boil test :)

Guess where the element is?

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A nice boil

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Re: The Bread Maker

Post by barneey » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:45 am

Just hooked a pump up to the thing to trial a water test with just the tube / no filters..

Water Test Vid
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