Lightest malt extract available

[allanmb]

I have made quite a few beers now, ranging from fruity pale(ish) session ale to a full-on dark christmas beer, and quite a few in between! The one style I have yet to achieve is something very pale. I usually use coopers light liquid malt extract or generic extra light DME but these have always resulted in around 20EBC according to this chart:
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Are there any extracts that would help me achieve something in the 4-8 EBC range? I guess I could make a weak ABV beer, but I want to keep it >4% at the very least, preferably closer to 5%. Or will I have to start looking at a grain mash?

Thanks
Allan

[Pegasus]

1.8kg Brupaks LME (EBC 4-6, say 5) in 10 litres should give an EBC of around 10 - see here. By my calcs ABV would be around 4.7% with 75% attentuation.

Or add sugar to get the ABV higher. Don't know what it would do for taste though

[RobWalker]

Are you brewing full volume? I found my 1-2 gallon batches darken considerably when boiling due to malliard effect...

[Rookie]

The lightest available is probably pilsner DME.
You could substitute rice syrup for some of the regular extract which would lighten the color.