Making my cool box mash tun/sparger

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Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:57 pm

I refuse to believe you took me seriously about the chrome....wind up merchants :P :lol:

Frothy

Post by Frothy » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:22 pm

oooh mash tun goodness

what is the reduction on the T-piece guys?

thanks
Matt

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Post by Andy » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:29 pm

QUOTE (Frothy @ Aug 7 2006, 09:22 PM) oooh mash tun goodness

what is the reduction on the T-piece guys?

thanks
Matt
22->15 mm

Bigster

Post by Bigster » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:32 pm

sensible work guys - take it from someone who has suffered a stucky mash or 2 :angry: cuts every 6mm and 1/2 way through definitely needed if using 15mm copper - may not need as much on 22mm

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:52 pm

I'm not too sure I'd put the cross piece in my manifold like your RR.

If you look at the picture of the manifold and count the number of slots that have been lost on the hoizontal lengths and compare it to those gained on the verticle section, its either roughly the same or some have been lost :o

But at the end of the day, who cares as long as there are no stuck mashes ;)

My next hunt is for some pre perforated tube for a hop strainer, or I'll make my own :blink:

Road Runner

Post by Road Runner » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:17 pm

QUOTE (Vossy1 @ Aug 7 2006, 10:52 PM) I'm not too sure I'd put the cross piece in my manifold like your RR.

If you look at the picture of the manifold and count the number of slots that have been lost on the hoizontal lengths and compare it to those gained on the verticle section, its either roughly the same or some have been lost :o
I just followed other examples described & shown in pics on this forum.

Seems to work excellently so far I have to say. No probs at all with stuck runnoff. Even have to shut the tap down on the tun as it runs off so fast.

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:50 pm

Perforated copper sheet I've found, tube not yet.
I will turn the maifold with slits facing downwards when I go to use it.

RR I just hope mine works, yours is well sorted.

Still on the hunt for a boiler. The cheapest 30ltr Ive found is the swan one on e-bay for £79.

Does anyone know if the keep hot facility will prevent a full on boil?

I e-mailed the bloke and there is no adjustable thermo, its all automatic so I'm a bit wary, if a full rolling boil is required.

RR once run off is complete do you empty the boiler and the pour the run off into the boiler from the collection bucket ?

When you boil the run off, do you start the count on the boiling time immediately or when it reaches boiling point? Sill Q but I've got to ask :rolleyes:

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:36 am

Should have put this question in my Stairway to Heaven thread, there's some cross over...oh well.

DaaB, JA posted a similar suggestion about the dual element boiler. I assume this is a stock pot with elements fitted.
I must confess that when struggling to find a boiler last night, I did start pricing stock pots up. It certainly seems cheaper to make your own.
My only concern was, believe it or not, was what size drill bit do you need and where can you get them from :blink:

My second thought was to use a external gas ring and propane bottle, as I alreaday have these for boiling particles for my fishing hobby.
Having said that, it would mean moving 20+litres of boiling water about and I dont like that idea, although I do it regularly when fishing abroad.
Not too bad dropping that amount of water on the grass but dropping it on a tiled floor, with two sausage dogs abou,t and under my feet...terrifing

Going to look for more stock pots and elements now.

Funny how the mind works !

Road Runner

Post by Road Runner » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:55 am

QUOTE (Vossy1 @ Aug 7 2006, 11:50 PM)
RR once run off is complete do you empty the boiler and the pour the run off into the boiler from the collection bucket ?

When you boil the run off, do you start the count on the boiling time immediately or when it reaches boiling point? Sill Q but I've got to ask :rolleyes:
Yep, correct again.

I sparge & collect the runnoff in a large 30 litre fermenter bucket, untill I've collected about 28-29 litres.

Ideally, you should sparge untill the runnoff is coming out at a gravity of about 1.006 But as the runnoff is hot & my hydrometer is calibrated to 20'c, this wouldn't be an accurate reading. I know I could cool a small amount of runnoff to measure, or compensate for the readings on the hydrometer, but I can't be bothered to do that.

Once I have a full fermenter bucket, I empty the rest of my sparge water from the boiler & as you say, just tip the wort into the boiler & bring to the boil.

I start timing the boil once my wort has a good rolling boil & the hops are added.

My boiler is only 29 litres, so I fill it to leave enough space at the top of the boiler for the rolling boil, leaving 2-3 litres of wort in my bucket. These 2-3 litres I use to top up the boiler as evapouration reduces the level in the boiler.

Hopefully after a 90 min boil, I'm left with about 25 litres of yummy brew. :D

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Post by Andy » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:27 am

I'm going to be building my copper manifold in the next week, wasn't going to bother with the cross brace either for the reason Vossy mentioned above....

Hopefully I'll then be set to resume brewing ops when the temp starts to dip a tad in perhaps a month and a bit :D

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:38 am

Thanks RR, Invaluable as ever ;)

Bigster

Post by Bigster » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:48 am

I have 2 cross braces on mine - 2 reasons

1. Allows loads more cuts helping run off and stops danger of all going down sides and affecting efficiency
2. As I havent soldered it any point it was pointed out to me that it is less likely to fall apart due to more combinations of imprecise :rolleyes: lengths.

Bigster

Post by Bigster » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:15 am

Image

Probably not loads more slots but definitely more - I have to handle it with care it is a bit fragile in places :lol:

Vossy1

Post by Vossy1 » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:18 am

That's a work of art Bigster, it should never be used :P

Has anybody ever tried a full coverage perforated base?

Cheers DaaB...I'm on the case ;)

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Post by Andy » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:04 am

From the DaaB link I'd get the 33L placcy bin rather than the 30L one.

http://www.hopshopuk.com/cgi-bin/browse ... showfrom=4

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